Fun with PECOTA (and more) - Offense
The super fantastic Replacement Level Yankees Weblog had a little fun with Diamond Mind Baseball over the last couple of weeks, coming up with forecast standing based off individual players’ forecast statistics. Not dissing on ZiPs or THT or any of the others, I’m going to focus on the results using PECOTA (due to the fact that PECOTA is behind their subscriber firewall, I will be talking a bit in generalities instead of specifics. So why PECOTA? Because it’s the best.).
Running 1000 games in the simulation using PECOTA, the Astros wind up with a 74-88 record, or one game better than the lowly Pirates and the crappily managed Cardinals. And that, sadly, sounds about right.
So, what looks good for the Stros? Even though the team is starting to look like a beer-league softball team on offense, the runs for number comes out to only 744, which would be deep into the lower half of the NL if that comes true. Berkman should be his usual, solid self, but he’s turning 32 this year, and his old player skills - which tend to not age well - worry me deeply. His OPS is being forecast at 900, which definitely doesn’t suck, but Berkman’s lifetime OPS is 971. In other words, we have seen the best Berkman has to offer.
Next is Miguel Tejada. For now, I’ll forgo the argument that this was an asinine trade made by a total dumbass of a GM. Instead, I’ll focus on the forecast. PECOTA has him getting 563 PAs, which I don’t think he’ll come close to meeting. He’s 32 if you believe the birth certificate, and he is simply no longer capable of playing SS on a day-to-day basis, conveniently forgetting that he has no better than fall-down range at this point. With a PECOTA forecast OPS of 800, he’ll be slightly above-average offensively, but whatever he adds with the bat he’s likely to give back with the glove.
Hunter Pence is forecast as the third best Stro in terms of VORP. Until he learns to walk at the break-even 10% rate, I think he will struggle offensively. He doesn’t have a ton of power, yet, though the park will help. Personally, I think his career path is Eric Byrnes.
Finally, we get to the super-mega-huge contracted Carlos Lee. He’ll continue to do his best imitation of a statue in LF, but he’ll also hit the ball. PECOTA has never much liked Lee, in large part because of Lee’s large build, so one could take the over on the projected 850 OPS. Still, he’s already the third player listed here who’s 32, but plays and looks a helluva lot older than that. It’s likely that one of Berkman, Lee, or Tejada will lose significant playing time this year. My bet’s on Tejada.
And then, by VORP, it’s…JR Towles? First of all, I’d be shocked if he gets 497 PAs as is being forecast. Coop will get Ausmus more PT than 170 PAs, no matter how detrimental it is to the team. And if Towles struggles in the least? Ausmus will be back to full-time status in a blink.
For some reason, Nate hasn’t adjusted the Stros lineup to have Michael Bourn in CF over Reggie Abercrombie, but I think we’d be lucky to get Abercrombie-type production from Bourn. Bourn couldn’t hit his way out of a paper bag. Think Willy Tavares without the power, and you have Bourn. He’ll need to do a ton with the glove to prove any worth to the team. Again, I’m not optimistic he can do this.
Ty Wiggington? Why? Which god(ess) did I offend so horribly to get Ty Wiggington on the team? Below average offensively and defensively, there is probably no player who better identifies the Tim Purpura error (sic) than Wiggington. Think half a David Wright, and that’s Wiggington. I so hate.
I’ll end with this guy, with this idiotic, moronic signing: Kaz Matsui. Most GMs would’ve looked at the 32-year old (that damn age again!) Matsui and thought, wait a minute, this guy has a 650 OPS everywhere but Coors Field. He sucks pretty badly. But Ed Wade is no such negative ninny! Wade saw Matsui’s 864 OPS at Curs and thought to himself, “Holy shit! He’s a superstar!” That’s the wisdom of seeing the glass half full…when it’s really just the hardened coffee at the bottom of the mug that can’t be scrubbed off anymore. The good news it that there’s no way Matsui gets more than 500 PAs. The bad news is that he’s still considered the starter. And we gave up on Chris Burke for this.
That’s enough. I can’t take anymore. But, for those of you who think that this will be a high-powered offense, I hope you’ll reconsider. This is a poor offense, slow except for Bourn, Matsui, and Pence, and horribly defensively, especially on the left side.
For Part II, I’ll look at the pitchers. Grab the bleach.
Posted under 2008 Season, Astros, Brad Ausmus is the worst Astro evar!, Ed Wade hurts my brain, Kaz Matsui gives me anal fissures, Outlook
March 28th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
.900 OPS for Berkman? Obviously they didn’t see his splits from last year. After a puzzling bad start to the season, he returned to form after the all-star break. 32 isn’t that old anyways. A-Rod just had a career year at 32. Berkman (barring a serious flag-football injury) aught to have another 2-3 strong years in him.
And the PECOTA predictions are pretty much obsolete for Bourn and Towles (who I’m expecting good things from).
Anyways, it just seems silly that they would predict this team to only score 21 more runs than last year’s team. There’s improvement at pretty much every single spot in the order.
Kaz Matsui, as bad as he’s capable of playing, can’t possibly be any worse than Biggio was in the lead-off spot last year. Same goes for Tejada over Everett, and Towles over Ausmus. We won’t waste playing time with Lane and Ensberg this year either. The only real losses are Luke Scott and Mike Lamb, who never got enough playing time as it was anyways.
I’d be interested to see how they figured those numbers though. 744? Seriously? But we’ll agree to disagree. I’m not ready to get cynical with you until we start talking about starting pitching.
March 28th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
I don’t understand Ed Wade’s offseason moves at all. As far as I can tell, the net result of his offseason moves on the number of wins is nada. Better offense, worse pitching. Probably about the same record. Busy offseason. Nothing accomplished.
March 29th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Ugh. Unless we’re talking about the mystical protector of baseball’s innocence, PECOTA is bullshit. It’s ood for analyzing what just happened, and worth fuck-all for telling you what the next AB holds.
Bourn could be ROY material; he was crushing the ball in spring training, and is as fast as advertised. His biggest hurdle is adjusting to MMP’s shark-infested CF.
I think the “glass half full predictions” will be forthcoming.
March 29th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Dearest Mr. Striker, if that is your real name…
In the spring, Michael Bourn has 4 XBH in 81 ABs and has a whopping 629 OPS.
So, if by “crushing” you mean “hitting like he always has,” you are dead-on.
March 29th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
OK, I have a moment to address your PECOTA “concerns.”
No, it’s ridiculous to believe that anything exists that can accurately predict the future. But what we do have is the past, which is an amazingly accurate predictor in the aggregate.
What estimates can help us do is look at the relative strength of teams, possibly finding weaknesses that should be addressed. When I look at the Stros offense, I see the core players, with the exception of Pence, at 32 or older. Historically, we know that hitters are in their prime between 26 and 30 years old, which means that our core is beyond their prime. In addition, players in their 30s tend to have more injury issues than do younger players.
There are exceptions to every rule - nobody could’ve ever guessed that Brady Anderson would hit 50 HRs - but those are the outliers in this little equation.
Whatever shortcomings PECOTA has, and there are plenty, are spread evenly across all teams. And, the fact is, the offense looks like horse shit.
Now, Pollyanna, I look forward to your glass half full prediction.
March 29th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
I’m not arguing that our team isn’t going to be complete shit in two or three years, but players don’t just drop 70 points below their career OPS at age 32. At least, not great hitters like Berkman, Lee, and Tejada. Although for the latter, obviously there’s the post-roid drop-off to consider…
But if you’re predicting doom and gloom for Bourn because he’s not hitting all that well in spring, then by that logic you might as well assume Tejada is going to return to old form since he tore it up in the grapefruit league.
March 29th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Berkman - 2007 OPS = .896. Projected = .900
Tejada - 2007 OPS = .799. Projected = .800
Lee - 2007 OPS = .882. Projected = .850.
And, I *did* call the over on Lee. The problem is that these guys have already dropped to these levels below their lifetime OPS. That’s what happens when players age.
Bourn’s minor league numbers peg him at about a 730 OPS. last year, it was 726. That range sounds about right for him. So, yeah, that’s a little better than Taveres, but I keep having Gerald Young flashbacks.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Well, you’ve gotta admit, Berkman’s struggles in the first half last year were just… odd. He took a ton of walks and hit pretty much only singles. I remember Garner joked about moving him to the lead-off role, since his OBP pretty even with his slugging percentage at around .400 at one point. I don’t think it was fatigue from age either, I think his swing was just off. Whatever the case, he regained it after the all-star break, and I’m expecting that from him for all of next season.
Tejada, maybe. But he was unmotivated last year because he wanted a trade, had no protection in the line-up, and he had lingering injuries. I think I’d take the over on that one as well.
Bourn’s numbers took a hit at the end of spring because he had a couple 0-5 games, but his OBP was great up until last week. All I want from him is a .340+ OBP and the ability to actually drive in the occasional runner from second or hit a sac-fly (something Willy T was incapable of). His speed and the RBI guys behind him will take care of the rest.
Whatever the case, we did finish spring 4th in runs, 5th in touched bases, and 2nd in stolen bases. I don’t put much stake in spring training, but it’s encouraging to say the least.
March 29th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
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